Gang of Eight: The Democrats Debate — Jun 4th 2007

The reaction to last night's Democratic debate began before the bloody, penultimate episode of
The Sopranos could even get underway. According to this CNN dispatch,
Nation columnist and author Eric Alterman (the only national pundit whose sister I dated in high school) was actually
ejected from the spin room up in New Hampshire. On the other side of the aisle, Michelle Malkin
proudly declined to turn on her television. In fact the debate itself came up short in the sound-and-fury department. Standing behind their podiums for the first hour, the field of candidates resembled eight tiny action figures in conservative suits. They seemed caught between pledges of unity--a nice touch for the always schismatic Democrats--and the understandable urge to separate themselves from the pack.
What we got, then, were mostly variations on the same theme. Disagreements did erupt, of course. John Edwards, with his sagging poll numbers, was quick to deny the actual existence of the War on Terror. "It's a bumper sticker!" he insisted. "It's a political slogan. That's all it is, that's all it's ever been." Hillary Clinton was having none of this--which is to say that no senator from New York can afford such a rhetorical ploy. But even as the discussion about Iraq heated up, Joe Biden rushed in with a Band-Aid. "I don't want to judge them!" he remarked, when the schoolmarmish but efficient Wolf Blitzer asked him to condemn his colleagues for their votes on the latest round of war funding. "They worked hard! These are my friends!" And not too much later, Clinton added: "The differences among us are minor."
In general, though, Biden had a pretty good night, especially given the
pratfall that launched his campaign. At one point he noted that "being Commander In Chief occasionally requires you to be practical"--a deadpan irony that got a chuckle from the audience. But he seemed to making a conscious effort to avoid his inner policy wonk, cutting directly to the chase in his discussion of the military's don't-ask-don't-tell policy: "Peter Pace is
flat wrong!" And while the still marginal Mike Gravel delivered the ultimate word on legislative earmarks ("abominable"), I admired Biden's blunt response: "Go to public financing of elections. The rest is mullarkey." Way to go, Joe!
Gravel, whose initial vibe suggested a grumbling, opinionated CPA, gained focus throughout the evening. Indeed, both he and Dennis Kucinich--meaningfully positioned at the outer edges of the group--managed some excellent potshots at their centrist peers. For example, everybody essentially agreed on national health care (an amazing fact in and of itself). But only Kucinich rejected any sort of entrepreneurial tango with the insurance industry: "We need a universal, single-payer, not-for-profit system."
More surprisingly, Kucinich said that he would be unwilling to vaporize Osama bin Laden with a guided missile. The issue was somewhat blurred by the prospect of (an ugly phrase) collateral damage, with Blitzer refusing to give a specific number. But Kucinich sounded absolutely opposed to what he called "assassination politics," and you could practically see the prickling of Barack Obama's large, parabolic-looking ears. "When you've got a military target like Bin Laden," Obama shot back, "you take him out." Clinton too climbed aboard the bandwagon, with a special twist of her own: "My husband
did try to take out Bin Laden... But you have to be very careful about how you proceed."
Was there a winner? By virtue of having not destroyed each other, Clinton and Obama walked away with a partial victory. Biden was assertive, Edwards smooth and persuasive, and Dodd, with his gleaming head of hair and vaguely columnar physiognomy, lost ground. (Worth noting: only Dodd had the temerity to suggest that when oil goes above $40 per barrel, the surplus should be rebated back to the consumer.) It's hard to imagine Gravel or Kucinich yanking the party out of its centrist groove, although their role as stereophonic gadflies is a blessing to all concerned.
But the other great lesson of the debate is that Bill Clinton still casts an awfully big shadow. His name popped up over and over again, and the funniest moment came when various candidates were asked how they would make use of the former president in their administration. Bill Richardson, who radiated an attractive sort of decency but never really dominated the stage, promised to appoint Clinton as a Middle East envoy. Gravel mentioned a post as a roving ambassador. He was echoed by both Obama and Hillary, who promised the gig to "Bill Clinton, my dear husband." We've come quite a ways since the silver-tongued, junk-food-adoring Clinton was shunned by his former vice president and a sizable fraction of his own party. Now everybody wants the Man from Hope on board--as long as they can promptly send him out of town.
Tags: biden, debate, democrats, election, gravel, hillary, kucinich, obama
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
alexia — 2:41PM on Jun 4th 2007
1. I was impressed by Dodd for the same reason that James mentions in this article, but he has no chance of winning when pitted against Clinton, Obama and Edwards. Obama, as he has for the entire campaign so far, didn't surprise me. He didn't say anything I haven't heard before, and came off like somebody who was talking from talking points that he'd crammed the night before. I don't hear any heart from him. Clinton was better, but her unmatchable ability to play politics scares me, and she did vote for the war which crushed me at the time. I was living in NYC, we had just started to come out of the haze of 9/11 and for our brand new Senator to do that... well, it was disappointing as hell, and just exactly the kind of action that I can't forget. If she becomes President, I think she'd be great, but I'd always be worried she was going to make another bad decision like that. Edwards was my favorite - even though I adore Kucinich and his message. Edwards seems to be coming from the heart and seems to be the reason everyone else in the field is starting to talk less like politicians and more like people. I feel he's changing the game, and that's what we need right now. He also said "A President's job is not to legislate but to lead." I agree with that and it was good to hear, so I'm keeping my eye on him.
what now toons — 4:21PM on Nov 16th 2007
2. I watched the debates last night. And Dennis Kucinich definitely came out on top in my book. Edwards, whom I support was on the defensive, and Biden was strong and measured. Kucinich's answers were straight forward and to the point, and his call for "Impeachment Now!" brought a strong round of applause from the audience. No pussyfooting around from this candidate.
However it seemed that Hillary and Obama once again got the lions share of the
questions and time to answer them. Makes you wonder who's controlling our elections.
Big coporations, the new Robber Barron's are taking over, no question about it. They choose our candidates for us with their buying power.
That's why I drew my latest cartoon about the debates last night.
here it is.
Cartoons with a progressive edge
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